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So in 1994, I started a fellowship for people who had completed medical school to retrain physicians. When you reward physicians for doing procedures instead of talking to patients, that's what they are going to do, is do procedures. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Both of these approaches are necessary, but it would be great if we had a better balance in Western medicine. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Prescriptions, you can see how many scripts in the under script. I can act more as a guide for patients, taking the time to educate them and having them understand that there are choices that they have the power to make for themselves. MARTIN: Wow. GUPTA: A lot of these stents are unnecessary? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We'll do it at the front. ORNISH: We found that after a year, the men who made these intensive lifestyle changes, their physical heart disease improved. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have had enough. STEVE BURD, CEO, SAFEWAY: In 2005 we had a billion-dollar health care bill rising at the rate of $100 million a year. It just wants you to keep coming back for your care of your chronic disease. What that means is, the money we spend on prevention improves our health greatly per dollar spent. "Escape Fire" airs March 10 on CNN. We just have to keep working towards that. It's OK. You're good, you're good. Hold my beer while I shoot this gator, you know? (LAUGHTER) Infinitely. All right. Invisible as it is, it's just as significant as a bullet wounds to the -- to the head or chest. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are the costs of all of our drugs in order. They can pretty much get away with increasing the rates as much as they want to. If I burn the fuel around me, then when the fire comes and it takes me, I'm safe. ESCAPE FIRE exposes the perverse nature of American healthcare, contrasting the powerful forces opposing change with the compelling stories of pioneering leaders and the patients they seek to help. The film is about finding a way out. MEL LEFER, PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA: 25 years ago I had five restaurants in San Francisco. ROBERTSON: Right. And water, they are saying, I'm going to have to give up to get there. I think a large part of it is personal issues, where we have different behaviors that I think increase our burden of disease. Brownlee, Shannon, commentator. They become more productive. May everyone be healthy. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because he's real sleepy? BERWICK: The healthcare system isn't affordable anymore. DR. WAYNE JONAS, PRESIDENT, SAMUELI INSTITUTE, MILITARY MEDICAL RESEARCH: With 10 years of ongoing wars, the amount of suffering that's going on in the military right now is tremendous. 2. Not just the health, but healthcare, the health of a nation. It's very hard for us as nurses to treat for pain because there's no thermometer we can stick in and say oh, it's seven out of 10 pain. Do you understand? It goes into the other areas, and it's just not sustainable. He is the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. If somebody has an infection, we give anti-infectious agents. So Doctor Rice, let me start with you. MARTIN: Have you cut yourself before? Is that a fair message? BROWNLEE: We have a disease care system, and we have a very profitable disease care system. Michelle? GUPTA: Can you actually get a-hold of those people? DR. PAMELA ROSS, EMERGENCY MEDICINE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA: I'm from Virginia. The first description that the play makes about the fire escapes is "The apartment faces an alley and is entered by a fire escape, a structure whose name is a . Can't wait to be there. Stay tuned because afterwards, we're going to have a very important discussion regarding what we can all do to live longer and healthier lives and maybe avoid unnecessary costs and procedures. DR. ROBY COSGROVE, CEO, CLEVELAND CLINIC: I've never looked after a healthy person. Get educated on these issues and add your voice to a growing chorus for change. Tom's Escape In The Fire Escape. UMBDENSTOCK: We don't have enough primary care clinicians to provide that important fundamental level of care. My job is to provide the right care for the right patient at the right time. To feel that way when you come home is demoralizing. You just never get to the bottom of what's causing all of these problems that they are having. YATES: I was on Parazasin just for nightmares. This -- medications I was on. The question was, can we relieve their pain and reduce the amount of medications that they are on so by the time they get back, they are not snowed under on multiple medications. We're saying that the system has created incentives in subtle and not so subtle ways drives more procedures. When a team from Dartmouth Medical School mapped Medicare payments, it found some disconcerting differences from one part of the country to another. Job number two was to make sure that there was not a public option. The next group of people are people that have tried medical therapy, that are on medical therapy and failing. And I thought, once I get this, I won't have the blockages anymore. Only thing we can do is separate them out, because there's no way for us to tell which are which. Healthcare reform was a good place to start, but it will do little to address the root problems. How are you feeling? You know? It's the best treatment and it saves lives, period. OK. It's addictive. As an overall system, no, we're not anywhere near the best in the world. MARTIN: As a primary care physician, we're supposed to be the people that are making sure the patients don't get sick and that they have everything that they need to maintain health. I was on anti-depressants. We have to be mindful to those points in time where you can intervene and say enough's enough. Just sheer numbers, $2.7 trillion per year. LT. COL. BETTY GARNER, RESEARCHER, U.S. ARMY: Welcome to Germany. (END VIDEO CLIP) NISSEN: There was a drug on the market, Avandia. It's nice to know that I've got a long time to spend with my family and I'm going to get to see my son grow older and go to college and all that fun stuff. BURD: All we did was facilitate smart choices for people and develop this culture of health and fitness. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not, not when I'm doing that. He overdosed. I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta. I feel like I'm changing. We don't have a healthcare system in this country. This point I'm in. The fire exploded, it's moving over 600 feet a minute, faster than most people could ever run. She's still taking her Lexapro, but it's obviously not doing the job. I ultimately had a crisis of conscience, because I was not at all proud of what I was doing. We have made all of this unhealthy food the cheapest and most available food. Because they're not using health care now. The power lies with corporations and corporate interests and the lobbyists that they buy. This is a lot worse. Look. Sometimes they are related to lifestyle habits. So to make up that difference in the reimbursement rates decreasing we're changing the shorter appointments next week. And it wasn't because procedures were more expensive in Miami than in Minneapolis. NISSEN: Yes, but we have to educate patients. Now, thanks to both of you for joining us. the play Tom is seen standing in a fire escape during many acts. BURD: You can't say you're interested in a culture of health and fitness without providing a first-class gym. I mean, they are going to watch that and think, that's ridiculous. It's not visible, but it's there. Seventy percent of all the deaths in diabetes are heart disease. Do you think that will make a difference? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What I'm arguing for is not to make things tough on industry, it's to make things safe for patients. As a society, we have to make it easier and more affordable for people to make better lifestyle choices than worse ones. We could do 1,000 studies with a million patients, it would remain on the fringes, it's all about the Benjamins, as (INAUDIBLE) would say. I think many of her cardiac catheterizations instead would not have been necessary. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So right now the only way we have to make up the difference is basically to see more people. And some people even that are getting stents don't have symptoms. RICE: And I was surprised about this, particularly the data. If somebody has hypertension, we give anti-hypertension drugs. These lifestyle changes cannot only work as well as drugs and surgery, but often even better at a fraction of the cost and the only side effects are good ones. We need primary care doctors. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just take a couple of minutes to kind of arrive. It's been a wild ride. And when we come back, just how much does profit play a role in all these treatment decisions. That's good. Maybe even a provider service. MARTIN: You used to cut? We see a lot of the chronic conditions that affect many Americans that have gone untreated for sometimes months, but sometimes years. JONATHAN GRUBER, ECONOMIST, MIT: Prevention, unfortunately, does actually saves us money, you know. MARTIN: OK? But I think the economic imperatives are much stronger now. JONAS: What it first seems like strange bedfellows, healing oriented mind/body practices and sort of the hardcore military actually is an opportunity that they jumped at because of the pragmatic need and nature that the wars had driven them to respond to. Probably put him on the bottom on the other side. ROSS: There have been some trends in healthcare that make me uncomfortable. Korengal, the (INAUDIBLE), it's the most intense battleground that you can ever be in. Up next, CNN Films presents "ESCAPE FIRE: THE FIGHT TO RESCUE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE." And then we're not going to help anybody. Here you go. Well, it drives demand. Putting patients first. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to check his chart real quick and find out how -- what he got at the CASF. And how to know if you're being prescribed unnecessary procedures. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. NISSEN: We do have a problem in America, and that is we have misaligned incentives. more . You get paid for the service that you're doing as opposed to for the overall care of the patient. And in some ways, I think of a lot of what's happening in health care is kind of dark matter. NISSEN: There's litigation involved and the company set aside $6 million to settle lawsuits. So he figured I was going to die because I was in such bad shape. ESCAPE FIRE tackles one of the most pressing issues of our time: what can be done to save our broken medical system? He's like really not listening very well. It's all about the numbers and how many millions of dollars, if not billions of dollars, you're earning in profits. CARNES: Notice where you are in the room, the people around. The folks who were there were not trying to shirk their responsibilities. DR. JEFFREY MARSHALL, PRESIDENT, FOR INTERVENTIONAL AND GEOGRAPHY IN INTERVENTION: I don't believe so. Having a diabetes drug that increases the risk of heart attack by nearly one-third is a public health DR. STEVEN NISSEN, CHAIRMAN, CARDIOVASCULAR MEDICINE, CLEVELAND CLINIC: Having a diabetes drug that increases the risk of heart attack by nearly one-third is a public health catastrophe and the company didn't tell anybody. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do it again on Friday. ROSS: All right. There were even times, honestly, that I looked in the mirror and said, how did you get here? Let's be honest. They may be a member of a health plan for a year and maybe no longer. We're on track for that on Tuesday. Are you incentivized to do more stents? CINDY ROBERTSON, ADMINISTRATOR, MD-COLOMBIA FAMILY HEALTH CENTER: We're the only clinic in this community county, so it's about 20,000 people overall. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Once I found out what was really wrong with me. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all know there's things we can do and they make us feel good and we like to do them, but we're going to feel really bad if our doors close. BROWNLEE: We spend $300 billion a year on pharmaceuticals. They didn't foresee me ever trying to walk yet. The study was conducted by Dr. Dean Ornish, who looked at patients with early stage prostate cancer. We're in Mann Gulch. OSBORNE: I am great. (COMMERCIAL BREAK). Firefighters said they received about 12 calls . And doctors wanting to please their patients will often prescribe it. Try to break a sweat every day. The patient just fell off the litter. So, these models that I'm talking about are based on fee for service, then, they are being paid for a care coordination fee. And I had a massive heart attack. WEIL: Right. GRUBER: For everybody. But, that's not the whole story. But, in fact, the more I looked, the more I found that there's all this stuff in medicine that we don't think about that is actually harmful. Meditation takes the place of that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, Mr. Fields. This suture costs about $200. You almost forget that what you're doing is providing health insurance. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel like I'm warming up a little bit. ORNISH: Dr. Peter Carroll and I collaborated with Dr. Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the Nobel Prize in medicine and she had done a study showing that stress creates shorter telomere, said as your telomeres get shorter, your life gets shorter. It's just a terrible tragedy for patients. He's, like, clutching his head. So, I went into the hospital and they told me I had had a heart attack. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm going to leave these in for about five, seven minutes. No soldier should have to go through this. GUPTA: Doctor Rice, What do you think about that. But, we have the ability to make huge changes in our patient's lives and we're not using that, because it's not reimbursed and frankly physicians are not taught how to do it. If someone had talked to her -- I think someone had really teased out her chest pain and shortness of breath, I think many of her cardiac catheterization and stents would not be necessary. POTTER: We have been trying to reform the health care system for a hundred years. Dodge survived, nearly unharmed. Select Open transcript . GUPTA: Sometimes the patients demand this stuff. MARTIN: Yes? This is what he's got left. Impressive. Your arteries around the heart. To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So I decided to leave. I was so dependent on my pain medication. It's still not over, but it's better from Germany, I promise you that. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. ERIN MARTIN, PRIMARY CARE: After I'd left La Clinica, I joined this new practice. And you say that you can help negotiate the price of these bills down, what do you tell people? BERWICK: Everybody is doing what makes sense to them individually. (CROSSTALK) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's not -- yes. I decided out of curiosity to go check this out. 27 cardiac catheterization and well over seven stents. Original Airdate 08/17/2022. But this program has just inspired me to press forward. And they have to, these for-profit companies by law have to serve shareholders. If I'm frustrated by anything, it's that more of the nation hasn't adopted this. He said, it was a year. CAIN: Exactly. Upload captions and transcripts. Because I've gotten a lot of inspiration from the fellowship. And there's nothing that people sort of get more antsy about is the idea of people profiting off of other's misery. GUPTA: Why not just pay them more money? MARTIN: Can you feel this? I took care of them and I was responsible for them and just worrying about if somebody else is going to do for them what they need. Our health care system. I actually practice emergency medicine at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville. We even found that when you change your lifestyle, over 500 genes were changed. She had bypass surgery in her 30, 27 cardiac cauterization and well over seven stents before she went to the Cleveland clinic for treatment. The average per capita cost of healthcare in the developed world is about $3,000. I'm really, really pleased. And we see that suffering. Escape fire: the fight to rescue American healthcare (DVD) Contributors: Heineman, Matthew, director, Froemke, Susan, director, Berwick, Donald M. 1946- commentator. DR. JEFFREY CAIN, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS: We know that patients are healthier when they have two things. Fire Escape. DEAN MICHAEL ORNISH, PREVENTIVE MEDICINE RESEARCH INSTITUTE: When you're doing something that has never been done before, it's not universally accepted, to say the least. Underrewarded primary care. Are my premiums going to go up? GUPTA: For everybody here. The small wire cage you see there is the actual step. You have the ability to reduce or raise the risk of many preventable diseases. Compared to having your chest cut open? ROBERTSON: OK, so first topic, Medicaid reimbursement. TUCKSON: Primary care doctors are being cared more. It's not just we know it, we actually can go and visit it. GUPTA: How big a problem is this then? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. It sounded like it was so bad that you basically had to leave your practice. Obesity leads to heart disease and strokes and diabetes. If you look at a hospital bill, you might see an IV bag charge. It really does. The costs are going through the roof and the ability to help these service members and their families recover and repair and come back to a functional life is getting less and less. They said, absolutely, it's been demonstrated that acupuncture is safe and effective, especially with post-operative and injury pain. NISSEN: I do. If we can prevent that and even reverse it, that's how we're going to make true health care, not just sick care available. OSBORN: Oh, it's so beautiful! All these folks have driven from 400 and 500 miles away, waiting to get care that was providing to them for free. A stapler, this stapler that is often to used in surgery, like this? To get people to eat different, to eat, you know, to lose weight, to exercise regularly, those are hard things to get people to do, and we need to be better at it. What we do with waste in healthcare. They have talked about a child between age of one and four, having the third most common causes of homicide. MARTIN: A day? And Doctor Nissen is in salaried as well. Where does that money come from? Six years ago before I became CEO, I stopped to think, I've never looked after a healthy person and maybe it would be easier to take care of people and keep them from getting sick before they actually did get sick. The brain is not particularly good at distinguishing thirst and hunger, so we often eat when we should be drinking, things like water. MARTIN: It was a dire situation and there are many times that myself and my colleagues would have the conversation of, you know, we are going to miss something, this could be really bad, and actually having the fear that this was going to be harmful to our patients at some point. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: In the last few years, a profound change has begun in American medicine. And feel yourself observing all these constantly changing sensations and thoughts and feelings. MARTIN: OK. ROSS: Do you have any eating habits -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I eat the regular food and stuff. And that's because our system reimburses people for doing tasks and doing procedures, not for necessarily making people healthier. And it's just the last thing that you're really concerned about. Next, click the three-dot menu icon underneath the title of the video. He was featured in the film. Or at least we think we do. Alexander/Transcript. I've spent more than 30 years of doing studies showing that heart disease can be reversed by changing what we eat, how we respond to stress, how much we exercise, and how much love and support we have in our lives. The documentary "Escape Fire: The Fight to Rescue American Healthcare" makes this argument with stunning clarity. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. WAYNE JONAS, PRESIDENT, SAMUELI INSTITUTE, MILITARY MEDICAL RESEARCH: If our civilian healthcare system is smoldering and we see it's going to catch on fire and burn pretty soon, it is going to be unsustainable because of the costs, the military system is already on fire. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: It's an idea that's received national attention. We spend one heck of a lot of money. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) BROWNLEE: The history of how the American healthcare system grew is not one of order, it's one of sort of happen hazard chaos. MARTIN: When was your last mammogram and pap smear? A secret tape recorded aboard the doomed space shuttle Challenger captured the final panic-stricken moments of the crew. DR. DON BERWICK, HEAD OF MEDICARE/MEDICAID, 2010-2011: In 1949, a forest fire broke out in Mann Gulch, Montana. You know, they'll actually fix it. But with regard to prevention, preventing disease, does that save us money? I'm optimistic about the future. Until my doctor said to me, I don't know what else to do for you. That was how many medications I was on. CARNES: Ready? But something maybe you didn't know, when you look at a hospital bill, it's not just the cost of the supplies. Adding Avandia can help. There's the bright blue slush. He or she assembles a team of five other people to work with, a nurse, a yoga teacher, an exercise physiologist, a registered dietitian, and a clinical psychologist. She got her cholesterol under control, her weight under control and things were great for her after that. There's nothing else I can do. 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