Thanks Six. that is very black and white. modern Egyptologists. The LDS gospel topics series: A scholarly engagement. Brigham Young was wrong about Blood Atonement. Church really fucked up here, this is making waves. On Monday, June 23, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS) excommunicated Kate Kelly, founder of the Mormon women's group Ordain Women. This pattern of applying 20th century censorship and control tactics in a 21st century social media connected world is Church members can be excommunicated if they apostatize from church teachings. the CES Letter go as viral online as it has. I read booksa lot of the approved books. You have consistently Firestorm ensues, Ivins reverses interpreter ban after Runnells fights for one. It is up to the discretion of the presiding authority. Yet, you still attempted to break our You attempted to place conditions on me by demanding that I take down everything and to move our conversation into the dark. Ivins' church office in American Fork, Utah. on Marth 15th. but to threaten my membership instead. to "talk about my membership in the church". Then help me. My 0:00. Just the kind of moronic response and spin I expected. Runnells decides to redirect the conversation from verbally via the phone to writing Ivins had received the message from his secretary. She tried several things to humanize the situation, like talking to the doorkeeper and explaining how she had gotten a blessing from her own stake president before coming to Kansas and had prayed that they would all be able to see one another beyond their divisions. It told you that you were at heart evil and immoral and only by subordinating your conscience to their decrees could you see yourself as a good person. Why won't you just answer the questions in completely agreeable and committed to publicly making the corrections. members feel learning these troubling facts for the first time after a lifetime of discipleship and faithful study of correlated church history. You might not understand how deep the wound cuts. Parking is available in surrounding lots. Being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS/Mormon) is not a feeling of identification or affiliation, it is an actual membership record. obedience and conformity over the pursuit of truth and virtue of individual free agency. Excommunication is the most severe Church disciplinary action. Ivins responds to Runnells' March 12, 2016 @ 3:47pm email with the following 5:05am email (screenshot): After reading your latest email to me, I thought I should be certain that I understand your position. information" that required it. Front row: Jody England Hansen. My friend later became a bishop. Just a quick thought on excommunication. In 1989, George Lee, the first Native American to become a General Authority in the church, was excommunicated for apostasy and conduct unbecoming of a church member. Please let me know if you are willing to abide by these terms. Answer (1 of 25): My ex-communication certified letter signature required was because I chose to live with my boyfriend (at the time/unmarried). Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. First sold to Steven Christensen, a Mormon bishop and document collector (whom Hofmann would later kill with a bomb in 1985), the "salamander letter" purports to be written by Martin Harris. False Witness #3: Oliver Cowdery: Oliver Cowdery was excommunicated from the Mormon church and joined the Methodist church. You never called me I'm going to begin by bringing up two very important fundamental points that I believe is the foundation and heart of all of this. I would have thought that my email indicating a willingness to There is no middle ground. After reviewing your website and your statements, there are I never heard back from him again. Your previous content has been restored. 2. March 15th, I invite you to participate in a private written dialogue. Any disciplinary action against me without giving me errors or mistakes to publicly correct along with the opportunity to publicly correct and repent of "No interpreter or any representative will be allowed to attend with you. will respect this request and the Handbook by not attempting to hold a disciplinary council against me in my absence and inability to defend myself. Again, show me where I am wrong or where I am teaching something that is factually not true and I will be more than happy to publicly I was even more alarmed and disturbed when I read your disciplinary court notice a few Join. Instead of a meeting between us on The artist, Ryan Ottley, also released a statement saying, "My entire family are members, as are many of my friends, and I would never include anything mean-spirited about them or their beliefs. /r/Mormon is a subreddit for articles and topics of interest to people interested in Ms. Kelly's stake president had warned her in a letter in May that if she did not shut down the website, dissociate herself from it and repent, she faced excommunication for "openly, repeatedly. The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve have made some extraordinarily eye-brow raising admissions in these essays. Imagine my shock, after waiting for your answers for a year and a half, to get a phone call from you instead telling me you wanted me to come in to The only reason why I'm offering translations is because volunteers have given me The main response is in the attached PDF, which can be read below after email content: See attached PDF for my detailed response to your April 7, 2016 disciplinary court letter. | Enlighten the World. Joseph Fielding Smith, that Joseph Smith was a deceiver who willfully attempted to mislead people and that he should be exposed, his claims should be sincere concern and a teacher bore his or her testimony as a response intended to avoid the issue.". However, in light of your recent surgery and the fact that you have a close member who is near death, I have decided to postpone would be a grotesque injustice against me. I have invited my two counselors and if you so choose, feel free to invite Sister Runnells to attend. Now that they've used up their leverage they held against you as an idle threat, you are free to roar like you've never roared before!!!!! Excommunication is the most severe penalty that can be imposed by church leaders and effectively means that the exiled person is no longer a Mormon. will not take place on Valentine's Day. As you know, translation is not always precise, and I don't want there to be any misunderstandings between As my interpreter is a professional interpreter, he is bound by confidentiality so I have zero concerns. No answersjust threats of excommunication. To drag me into a disciplinary court is a grotesque injustice. chosen to continue its recent trend of excommunicating members who openly question or doubt church teachings. challenge Runnells' LDS Church membership. Is this really a legitimate reason for excommunication? and website. I am morally clean, honest with my fellow men and I have a what's right rather than to do what's right at the expense of obedience. - Elder Steven E. Snow, Current Church Historian, last generation - with the access to information on the internet, we can't continue that pattern; I think we need to continue to Here is my resignation letter. Ivins responded with bunnzy, Runnells with answers as he had pledged to Runnells in their November 2, 2014 meeting. I have done nothing wrong. The LDS church announced that Elder James Hamula had been released from his role in the church's leadership "following church disciplinary action." 3. that many members feel learning these troubling facts for the first time after a lifetime of discipleship and faithful study of correlated church history. Some leaders, like Hans Mattsson, an area authority in Sweden, when What errors or mistakes are there in the 'CES Letter' or on my website that I can publicly correct? Or even holding a council? Instead of calling Ivins back, Runnells emails Ivins the following message @ 1:39pm (screenshot): I received your voice mail asking me to call you. I trust that the above may be of assistance in assuring that you accurately understand my answers to your questions. I have excommunicated the LDS Church, President Ivins, and their kangaroo court from my life. We want to be in the position to help, and you can help make that possible. Quite frankly, President, I am extremely disturbed by your behavior and actions against me. Most Chapel Mormons would be disturbed and shocked at the new Mormonism that these unofficial apologists mingle and preach with "If a faith will not bear to be investigated; if its preachers and professors are afraid to have it examined, their foundation must be very weak." accordingly. Ivins gave in and agreed to March 15, 2016. held on April 17, 2016 @ 6:00pm. It is all recorded and documented for you to see for yourself. reference. I also very The fact that you are still using this against me demonstrates Paste as plain text instead, or anything he claimed in the Book of Abraham. It was a vicious Where I have erred or made mistakes, I have publicly corrected. Among the main questions Ivins consistently and repeatedly refused to answer are: On April 8, 2016, Runnells received a letter from Ivins informing him that there will be a disciplinary council held against Runnells on Sunday, April 17, 2016 @ 6:00 pm Mountain Time. Mormon blogger and podcaster John Dehlin, who was excommunicated for apostasy from the LDS Church on Feb. 9, has filed an appeal to the faith's governing First Presidency, claiming the action was "a flawed and unfair process." In a Tuesday letter, Dehlin says that evidence his local Mormon leaders used to justify the excommunication namely . The phone call lasted under 2 minutes. I'm pleased that I and everyone else involved, including the high council, will be able to spend time with our Your generous donations are tax deductible and will go a long way in helping us to continue to help the honest-in-heart seekers. You tried to hold a court on me on After speaking with President Mark Ivins and the High Council tonight, it became very clear to me that it was a kangaroo court. Sample 3: "Letter of resignation from mormon church". A vigil for Jeremy Runnells is being organized on Sunday, February 14, 2016 @ 7:00 pm Mountain Time at the American Fork Utah East Stake Center. Runnells replies back to Ivins @ 7:20pm (screenshot): As we agreed on our phone conversation two weeks ago (Jan. 25th), I am able to meet with you on March 15th. who were asking them why they had doubts and concerns with the truth claims of the LDS Church. You state: "After reviewing your website and your statements, there are many who might suggest that you are openly and publicly acting in opposition to church will ever reverse those excommunications and apologize to those historians and individuals for being ahead of their time by speaking and writing the You took out your handbook and read the I mean, I don't know how to repent of - I've asked you over and over and over to tell me where I'm wrong. new window while listening to the audio recording on this page. complete and full confidence in my interpreter to get it right. as they sought to obstruct and destroy the free agency of myself and others, to obstruct the free flow of information, and to imbalance the Mormon along with not including the church's essays. agency and the free agency of others, and to take our conversation away from the light of transparency and openness into the dark of secrecy and refused to not only point out any errors or mistakes but you have never called me to repentance before attempting to hold not one but two now Runnells received no text reply back from Ivins' secretary. You ask: "Explain your seeking funding on the internet to address and develop new material related to your concerns that you have with Church council: Jeremy Runnells, Author of CES Letter, Faces LDS Church Excommunication: Jeremy Runnells, author of the popular Letter to a CES Director faces excommunication from the LDS Church on essay. The following is a video and transcript of Runnells' speech: I want to first thank each and every one of you for being here tonight. I believe President Joseph Fielding Smith when he wrote: "Mormonism, as it is called, must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. scripture. to justify a sudden Valentine's Day evening disciplinary council: "additional information" (above email) and "conduct unbecoming a member". No response ever came. This is not and never has been my intention. See PDF of Runnells' attorney's letter.]. This is a copy of the letter which I sent out by mail to all active ward members in January 2011 just after notifying the Stake President of my resignation as Bishop of Helston Ward, Plymouth England Stake. https://t.co/DXvx3xAGfT pic.twitter.com/fU7v7ZjuzU. President, as I've very clearly outlined in my March 7th letter to you, it is my strong position that I have done nothing wrong. ", -Jeremy Runnells' reaction to Kangaroo Court, "The real problem here is not whether I'm writing falsehoods or lies, I've never been accused of that, it's that I'm public about this information. Also, the Who was the last person to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church? The church did not provide any further explanation for Hamula's excommunication but did discount apostasy and disillusionment as reasons for his ouster. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. It was not Christlike in any way. So I believe that it is at the discretion of each Bishop what penelty they will assign. In fact, October 19th's "anti-Mormon 675. If you can have your letter or email to me by March 10th, I will try to respond by March 15th. These values are ingrained into my own DNA. You are the owner of your life and your identity. ", "I'm not discrediting the church. It means a lot. Natasha Helfer received the news of her excommunication from her Salt Lake City-based church on Wednesday in a letter written by Stephen Daley, a regional church official in Derby, Kansas. verified truth. The. I have never once actively promoted or marketed the CES Letter or cesletter.org on any paid media (PPC, Banner Displays, Billboards, Mailings, etc.). I am resigning from the church due to its extremely disturbing lack of transparency and honesty to its members and investigators about the real Joseph These unofficial defenders of the church and their pet theories are no more legitimate or official than the wacky pet theories and claims of that weird old By laying out these two And I find that very, very The room with the high council and stake presidency already inside was locked and Ivins had to tap to get the door opened. "Your Name. [15], Writer Jana Riess has argued that the impact of the CES Letter has been overstated, yet important. They are unofficial men with unofficial pet theories and unofficial claims that the LDS Church There was an informal March 15th meeting scheduled with the Stake President but that has been cancelled as well. 18:31 (Mosiah 26). His SP forgave him of them (has he that authority) and installed him in that position. Cody and Leah Young were excommunicated from the LDS Church last week. days later stating that a court was being held against me because of "conduct unbecoming a member." Upon re-reading Ivins email, Runnells sees that it's not clear as to whether the March 15, 2016 meeting is still on. - D. Michael Quinn, former assistant to LDS Church Historian Leonard Arrington, "There must be no forbidden questions in Mormonism." I believe in the Mormon Marketplace of Information.". You ask: "Updating and translating those concerns into different languages, etc.". You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. A few months later in the summer of 2013, unofficial Mormon apologetic group FairMormon decided to publicly post an "analysis" of my letter. I'm sure that your anger and cynicism is very justified
Just a quick thought on excommunication. She said Hickey did not consult with Pope John Paul II. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. If an individual or organization seeks to silence doubt or questioning - in the private room or in the town square - it is Church authorities excommunicate a person from the Church only when he has chosen to live in opposition to the Lord's commandments and thus has disqualified himself for further membership in the Church. Since you are not in the U.S., you need to ascertain that information about your country. Brown. Regarding my membership in the Church and feelings regarding its leaders: My membership in the Church is valuable and important to me. Please let me know if there is anything I or other members of the stake can do to assist you and your family during this challenging time. I am glad to hear that, although you need to understand that some of The decision has been made to release everything to the public due to the extremely alarming and disturbing conduct on the part of the Stake President and This means the papyri did not come from Abraham's own hand as Joseph and the church claimed the last 175 or so Or is this something the Bishop can do on his own? questions and concerns, the church demonstrates that it really is not interested in balance or any real and meaningful intellectual conversation on the fairness. It's looking at all of the information Bill Reel's "Mormon Discussion" podcast recently took on Elder Jeffrey R. Holland. Many wonder if the But on Tuesday, the church was thrown into the limelight after it announced that it had. I am a product of Mormonism. And good comeback. marketplace of information. listeners to "know the content in these essays like you know the back of your hand.". [2], According to the Salt Lake Tribune and The Daily Beast, the letter has been influential in the decision of many now-former members of the LDS Church to resign their membership. That way the chance for misunderstanding by either of us will be reduced. I believe President J. Reuben Clark when he said: "If we have the truth, no harm can come from investigation. Why haven't you given me simply seeking official answers to church problems. Urged me to stay in steerage on its way to the bottom of the Atlantic. No one has to take Jeremy's word on anything. themselves have published most of the issues found in my 80 page CES Letter followed by their unofficial, uneven, and unsatisfying "answers" and pet LDS Church Postpones Court of Love Against Jeremy Runnells: I received an email this morning from my Stake President, Mark Ivins, indicating that the disciplinary council has been postponed until March 2016 - it Indeed, the church would be telling the world it fears the very questions I am asking. The church's essays are discrediting the church. He must, There is no true free agency when To start our dialogue, I would like you to send me a letter or email by March 10th explaining to me what you are trying to accomplish in posting Runnells requested a delay until March 15th, citing a close family member in hospice care, which was originally charges of apostasy. All I've wanted was to resolve my doubts and concerns about the discrepancies of what I was This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. council on Valentine's evening. A theme consistent in the conversations is Runnells' pleas for Ivins to answer his questions and Ivins' refusal to answer them. all over again. The church, through its CES Director, promised me a response in April 2013. As for your claim: "You have stated in the past that you had no desire to hurt the Church or its members. Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham essay. yet to release its first essay. responses to FairMormon. This directly contradicts the Book of Moses itself: "there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan, that they were despised among all people" -Moses 7:8. Like other unofficial to pull in others to help answer my questions and concerns. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 50 East North Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84150 Website: www.lds.org The Human Rights Campaign reports on news, events and resources of the Human Rights Campaign Foundation that are of interest to the general public and further our common mission to support the LGBTQ+ community. In the end, President, I know that you will do what you feel is appropriate. Introduction I received a letter informing me that on Sunday a "membership council" (formerly, "disciplinary council") will be held "on my behalf". The main response is in the attached PDF, which can be read below after email content: Please see attached "Runnells Response to Stake President 3.11.16 Email" PDF. Yesterday's "anti-Mormon lies" are now I no longer have access to the CHI, so I'm going from memory here a little bit, but probation is really up to the discretion of the Bishop as to the DOs and DON'Ts. On Sunday, I will be tried in . Why isn't the church going after FairMormon for destroying Mormon testimonies on the Internet? The first two how do they differ and who is ones membership changed? to go radio silent and to break that silence with a phone call on January 25, 2016 threatening me with excommunication. publicly making the corrections.". [22] Upon being notified Marvel released a statement saying, "As a policy, Marvel does not permit hidden controversial messages in its artwork" and scrubbed the reference from further artwork. It will be assumed that sin led to your departure. Washington City resident Bill Reel, who . opinions in the church. with dignity and therefore my resignation is effective immediately and unconditionally. Part of the church's antiquated pattern that it still clenches to in 2016 is the pattern of trying to censor and punish open/public discussion and debate The following brief video is a great observation of this entire process: Flip the Script: The How and Why of Jeremy Runnells' Exit. scheduling a meeting between us. My membership evaporated the second that I gave President Ivins my resignation Church's own foundational truth claims. Being Unrepentant is the main reason, a lot depends on callings that are held, if you've been through the temple. They continue to insist that the bandaid they slapped on this gaping wound has solved the problem, despite the fact that Sam has repeatedly addressed this. But the decision is made after the court meets. You can keep your thoughts in your head, but the minute that you exercise your freedom of expression, you get thrown into a disciplinary council. Smith and the real origins and history of Mormonism. Your past communication is not clear and opens the possibility that you desire to cancel the meeting and move our conversation to email/writing. "Today, the Church disavows the theories advanced in the past that black skin is a sign of divine disfavor or curse" - Race and the Priesthood essay. A Texas activist has been excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after leading a public campaign against the church's practice of allowing leaders to privately question children about sex. disturbing. Obviously, I will also As I wrote in my last email to you on March 24th: "It is my sincere hope that your next email to me will contain answers that I have been asking you for - many times - over the past year and a Runnells reports that he met twice with his LDS Stake President, Mark Ivins, in the fall of 2014. This letter can be viewed either in PDF or the two images below. 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